LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025 – Alice Flacco – E15

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Welcome to the Legally Speaking podcast, Legal Tech Talk Uncovered Mini Series 2025, sponsored by Clio.

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We’re back with our red mic for a behind the scenes series all about legal innovation at Europe’s largest legal tech event.

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So we’re granted access to meet some of the greatest speakers, sponsors, brands in the whole legal tech world.

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We’ve got 300 speakers with over 70 sessions with over 4,000 attendees from all across the globe, hitting aus here over the next two days at Legal Tech Talk live in London.

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From AI to access to justice to smart compliance, you name it, we’re covering it all.

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This isn’t just another conversation or another conference.

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It’s a blueprint for community and transformation.

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So buckle up.

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We’re speaking with some incredible people about policy change, change makers, legal innovation, and so much more.

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Over and out.

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Welcome to the Legally Speaking podcast recording live here at Legal Tech Talk on day two.

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And I am joined by name, title and organization.

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Alice Flacco, GC at Microport Scientific.

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And it’s absolute pleasure to have you here doing this live on the show.

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Oh, it got me by surprise.

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Yeah, and I’m loving your energy and it’s been great energy over the two days here at Legal Tech Talk has to be said.

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In one sentence, what’s one problem you’re trying to solve inlegal or would like to solve?

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Overwhelm in the pace of keeping it up with the transformation and still be efficient and look forward.

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Yeah.

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And what are you seeing, or a huge European legal tech conference, what’s one assumption you’re seeing from your lawyer friends or community friends about legal technology that people are probably still getting wrong, would you say?

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that it’s an enemy, that it’s something that we should look with caution instead of embracing it.

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I think one of these events is amazing in the other sense because this is really…

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a forum where you can really see how the tech is just helping you amazingly.

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Yeah, and you’re a great networker.

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One thing I like about this particular conference is you can go and create sessions through the app, right?

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And you can network.

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So have you been to any interesting sessions?

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Have you met any interesting people here?

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If so, just give us a flavor.

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Oh, yeah, amazing.

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Like yesterday I came in, it was overwhelming.

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The location is so big and all everything is well structured, so you can easily get around.

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The amount of providers is huge, so it’s like 2 days is really not enough to get all the beauty of all the opportunities that you have around what really the legal tech can offer, but this is definitely the place to be to really get.

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a taste of what’s coming in the legal sector.

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But yes, also amazing people like yourself.

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Yeah, well, thank you.

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And this year, there’s been six themes linked to Legal Tech Talk around law and technology, evolution and revolution, access to justice, purpose-driven law, collaboration, and smart compliance.

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Which of those areas speaks loudest to you?

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And if so, why?

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Everything that helps me free up the time to think.

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Okay.

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OkaySo you would say maybe technology that can help them get more efficient?

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Yeah, legal ops, everything that can really help me to get rid of the heavy lifting and get back to what the lawyers should be doing in the room, which is think and be at the decision-making table in an impactful way.

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So, you know, you’ve come over from Paris to be here.

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There’s people.

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What would you say to other busy lawyers, general counsels,managing partners, law firm owners that just say, I don’t have time to come for a conference, I don’t think it’s worth my time.

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As you’ve been to this, what would you say to that to maybe encourage them to switch that mindset?

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Yeah, I mean, I am the perfect example.

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I’m Sole GC, I manage operations worldwide.

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And I do make the time because on one side, it’s important for you personally to stay connected with your peers and increase your network with like-minded, amazing people, really.

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But also, if you don’t get out there and if you don’t see what’s around and what’s coming in the legal sector and also how you can embrace all the opportunities that this forum can give you, then you will never grow.

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So I personally, I mean, do that and do that, but go back to my work with the free time, it’s just an investmentthat it’s necessary.

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And that’s right, isn’t it?

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Your time is an investment.

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And I think the more you come here, you might meet one person or give you a turn of phrase.

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They might recommend a system, a strategy.

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It’s counter-intuitive.

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I had a conversation at work the other day.

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I said, oh my gosh, you are so overwhelmed.

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How do you find the time to go to conferences?

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I’m like, I’m sorry, but I need this as a professional.

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It’s part of the job to stay connected.

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If there is any problem, you’ve got the right network to leverage.

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For, again, leveraging tech, you’ve got here a concentration of amazing providers that can really help.

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It’s necessary.

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And I think if you look at it just from a time point of view, people say they don’t have the time to invest a day or two.

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Well, you think you get 4,000 attendees that maybe between them collectively have been in law between 10, 20 years.

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That’s hundreds of thousands of hours of wisdom under one roof that you could meet people and you can connect with them.

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You could shortcut your access to quality information and content in a very short space of time through getting yourself out there.

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And it’s fine, you meet people and you humanize.

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Okay, let’s go to 2030.

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You’re a GC five years from now.

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What’s one thing you would like to be seen that’s done better and finally fixed within legal services?

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Oh, it’s a great question.

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I would have liked to prepare that.

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You like to take your surprise.

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Let’s say in five years from now, all of us that will still have a job will be the ones that are here today and hopefully like really leverage what’s coming and and get a step ahead.

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So what I would like to fix, I think still the mentalityDefermentize.

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It’s like really you just go with the flow.

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Yeah, embrace it.

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And then I think a lot will change in the composition of teams.

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Yeah There will be a GC role I think the GC role will be really like overlook.

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It’s like a director of an orchestra.

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You get AI that can play instruments separately, but you still need the judgment.

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You still need a person that gets it all together.

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You still need to direct everything because then at the end of the daylawyers will not disappear they didn’t people don’t want to take the liability right so it will still also there for that to have to bear that rule to hold a fort yeah to hold the castle so the job will not change but will not I mean will change will not disappear but will change inherently in terms of like leverage and in terms of kind of supervision and strategic love it okay before I let you go what’s been your biggest aha moment here at LeadGoogle tech talk?

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Some providers and seeing like some really some solutions.

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Yeah.

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For example, you know, easier notarization, everything.

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Like the amount of tech that is coming now, it’s like building sometimes offline, don’t really see it.

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Yeah.

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And then you come here and it’s just right in front of you and then you can talk with these folks and you getyou can do memos about how the tools, the red line, how can save your time.

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I think the biggest ha-ha moment is really seeing in front of your eyes how really legal is transforming really quickly and not in a bad way.

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I think it’s very good.

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Yeah, tech for good.

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We talk a lot about that.

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Well, that just leaves me to say thanks so much for joining me.

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If people want to know more about you or get in touch, where can they go to find out more?

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LinkedIn, Alice, Flaco, happy to connect.

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There we go.

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