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From Hackney to High Court: How Equality by Design Builds a Diverse Future – Elaine Banton – S10E33
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”If you can see me, you can be me.” – Elaine Banton

What happens when a barrister who grew up on a Hackney council estate helps shape the future of equality, human rights, and AI? Elaine Banton from Doughty Street Chambers reveals why the law can no longer afford to be reactive and why fairness has to be built into systems from the start. Something that stood out most to me in this conversation was how strongly she framed the idea of “equality by design” — the belief that fairness should be built into systems, workplaces and even algorithms from the start, rather than added later after harm has already happened. We also explored how bias can be amplified by AI and why lawyers, institutions and businesses all need to understand the technology shaping decisions across health, education, employment, and justice.

So why should you be listening in?

You can hear Rob and Elaine discussing:

– Equality Being a Systems Problem, Not a People Problem

– The Biggest Fairness Failures Happening When Institutions Worship the “Ideal Worker”

– Visibility Not Being Symbolic – It Changes What People Believe is Possible

– Background Not Just as an Identity But a Strategic Intelligence

– How AI Bias is Not a Tech Issue – It Is an Accountability Issue

Connect with Elaine Banton here – https://uk.linkedin.com/in/elaine-banton

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